Brent, is dreaming (thinking?) about a better world a 'waste of time' indeed, even if it has no realistic base in today's (wretched??) ""system""?
You wrote - (BM): *... democracy is the rule of the (entire) population..." I took that to mean that the entire population would make rules: who can claim land, who own copyrights, how inventions can be patented, how taxes will be collected, how accused criminals will be tried, how fraud is prosecuted,... But it's obviously unworkable to say the entire population must agree completely on each rule. So that's why I said it is not a system at all. It's a fantasy.* I used Bruno's wording (rules) - sorry. You faithfully described today's capitalistic system of ours, taxes, patents, copyrights etc. Even included the ownership of L A N D what I want to accept from (obsolete) Marxism as No-No and the 'advanced'(???) judicial system I abhore. Please read the next par in my post, I apply Lenin's maxim on 'a communist man' to 'a democrat', who is active FOR the community without special rules according to his capabilities and takes what he needs (adjusted amounts?) without exploiting anyone, or accumulating big fortunes for themselves. Yes, it is a fantasy, but worthwhile thinking about it - sometimes we may approach such society - or, if not, we perish. On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:55 PM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 9/29/2015 7:20 PM, John Mikes wrote: > > Brent: > who said I require "rules"? In a wishful state of democracy people would > live in freedom (free to do what they like (including helping others and > solvin occasional problems?) as long as it does not inflict onto the > 'freedom' of others. > > > You wrote,"... democracy is the rule of the (entire) population..." I > took that to mean that the entire population would make rules: who can > claim land, who own copyrights, how inventions can be patented, how taxes > will be collected, how accused criminals will be tried, how fraud is > prosecuted,... But it's obviously unworkable to say the entire population > must agree completely on each rule. So that's why I said it is not a > system at all. It's a fantasy. > > A very idealistic evolutionary dream, of which Lenin concluded that to > implement (he spoke about 'communism' in a similar sense) that kind of > society a NEW TYPE HUMAN has to evolve (he called it "communist man"). > Such evolvement *cannot be orchestrated* by (majority?) rules and not by > a government of old-fashioned (capitalistic? self-centered and > growth-related - I mean gowth of their private wealth - upper class, > involved* in* any ongoing politics) *existing societies*. > But to dream about it is free. > > > Yeah and it's free to dream about my date with Scarlett Johansson...but > it's a waste of time. > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
