On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On 10/25/2015 8:38 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
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> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 4:39 AM, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]>
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>> On 25/10/2015 6:12 pm, Pierz wrote:
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>>> It's hard to see how physics can be self-consistent without the a priori
>>> existence of arithmetic.
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>> Maybe it is because the self-consistency of physics is what makes
>> arithmetic possible.
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>> Though admittedly that is a different point to whether or not physics is
>>> "emulated" in arithmetic.
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>> True. But no-one has yet emulated any physics in arithmetic. All the we
>> have is mathematical accounts of discovered physical laws -- arithmetic
>> based in physics.
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> I recently replied to someone on the FOAR list who expressed a similar
> criticism:
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>  Something has to "run" the math... ;)  electricity or not.
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> Isn't this being a bit one-sided?
> Physics can run itself, but objects in math cannot.
> A physical universe can exist independently of anything else, but a
> mathematical object cannot.
> A physical computation can result in consciousness, a mathematical
> computation results in nothing.
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> From where does such bias originate?
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> From experience as a physical being.
>

Your experience provides evidence for the existence of the physical
universe, but don't confuse this for evidence of the non-existence of
anything outside the physical universe.

Jason

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