Hi Brent,

On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 8:29 PM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
> Good paper.

Thanks!

> Many of the thoughts I've had about the subject too.  But I
> think your use of persistence is misleading.  There are different ways to
> persist.  Bacteria persist, mountains persist - but very differently.

Ok, I talk about persistence in the very specific sense of Dawkin's
selfish gene. Forward propagation of information in a system of
self-replicators.

>  The
> AI that people worry about is one that modifies it's utility function to be
> like humans, i.e. to compete for the same resources and persist by
> replicating and by annihilating competitors.

That is one type of worry. The other (e.g.: the "paper clip" scenario)
does not require replication. It is purely the worry that side-effects
of maximizing the utility function will have catastrophic
consequences, while the AI is just doing exactly what we ask of it.

> You may say that replicating
> isn't necessarily a good way to persist and a really intelligent being would
> realize this; but I'd argue it doesn't matter, some AI can adopt that
> utility function, just as bacteria do, and be a threat to humans, just as
> bacteria are.

I don't say that replication is the only way to persist. What I say is
that evolutionary pressure is the only way to care about persisting.

Cheers,
Telmo.

> Brent
>
>
>
> On 9/10/2016 6:06 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I published this working paper on arxiv, same title as this email:
>> http://arxiv.org/abs/1609.02009
>>
>> Criticisms most welcome!
>>
>> Best,
>> Telmo.
>>
>
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