> Telmo, I downloaded and read your new paper a couple of day back. So it is > getting "air-play," as the used to call it, in the States. It is getting > read by us nerds, at least. I am not sure if I can comprehend it's meaning, > but, then, I have great, difficulty, comprehending Cisco routers and > switches, and the principles behind them-so, please, adjust, for my > low-comprehension.
I know nothing about routers, but I suspect my article is simpler to understand. I would appreciate your questions on anything that is not clear. I am still going to create a new version with several improvements. > By the way, have you ever, read Tampolskiy's papers? just > asking. No, will check them. From a quick glance, I suspect I am disagreeing him. Cheers, Telmo. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com> > To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Sun, Sep 11, 2016 7:07 am > Subject: Re: Non-Evolutionary Superintelligences Do Nothing, Eventually > > Hi Brent, > > On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 8:29 PM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: >> Good paper. > > Thanks! > >> Many of the thoughts I've had about the subject too. But I >> think your use of persistence is misleading. There are different ways to >> persist. Bacteria persist, mountains persist - but very differently. > > Ok, I talk about persistence in the very specific sense of Dawkin's > selfish gene. Forward propagation of information in a system of > self-replicators. > >> The >> AI that people worry about is one that modifies it's utility function to >> be >> like humans, i.e. to compete for the same resources and persist by >> replicating and by annihilating competitors. > > That is one type of worry. The other (e.g.: the "paper clip" scenario) > does not require replication. It is purely the worry that side-effects > of maximizing the utility function will have catastrophic > consequences, while the AI is just doing exactly what we ask of it. > >> You may say that replicating >> isn't necessarily a good way to persist and a really intelligent being >> would >> realize this; but I'd argue it doesn't matter, some AI can adopt that >> utility function, just as bacteria do, and be a threat to humans, just as >> bacteria are. > > I don't say that replication is the only way to persist. What I say is > that evolutionary pressure is the only way to care about persisting. > > Cheers, > Telmo. > >> Brent >> >> >> >> On 9/10/2016 6:06 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> I published this working paper on arxiv, same title as this email: >>> http://arxiv.org/abs/1609.02009 >>> >>> Criticisms most welcome! >>> >>> Best, >>> Telmo. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
