> Telmo, I downloaded and read your new paper a couple of day back. So it is > getting "air-play," as the used to call it, in the States. It is getting > read by us nerds, at least. I am not sure if I can comprehend it's meaning, > but, then, I have great, difficulty, comprehending Cisco routers and > switches, and the principles behind them-so, please, adjust, for my > low-comprehension.
I know nothing about routers, but I suspect my article is simpler to understand. I would appreciate your questions on anything that is not clear. I am still going to create a new version with several improvements. > By the way, have you ever, read Tampolskiy's papers? just > asking. No, will check them. From a quick glance, I suspect I am disagreeing him. Cheers, Telmo. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> > To: everything-list <[email protected]> > Sent: Sun, Sep 11, 2016 7:07 am > Subject: Re: Non-Evolutionary Superintelligences Do Nothing, Eventually > > Hi Brent, > > On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 8:29 PM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote: >> Good paper. > > Thanks! > >> Many of the thoughts I've had about the subject too. But I >> think your use of persistence is misleading. There are different ways to >> persist. Bacteria persist, mountains persist - but very differently. > > Ok, I talk about persistence in the very specific sense of Dawkin's > selfish gene. Forward propagation of information in a system of > self-replicators. > >> The >> AI that people worry about is one that modifies it's utility function to >> be >> like humans, i.e. to compete for the same resources and persist by >> replicating and by annihilating competitors. > > That is one type of worry. The other (e.g.: the "paper clip" scenario) > does not require replication. It is purely the worry that side-effects > of maximizing the utility function will have catastrophic > consequences, while the AI is just doing exactly what we ask of it. > >> You may say that replicating >> isn't necessarily a good way to persist and a really intelligent being >> would >> realize this; but I'd argue it doesn't matter, some AI can adopt that >> utility function, just as bacteria do, and be a threat to humans, just as >> bacteria are. > > I don't say that replication is the only way to persist. What I say is > that evolutionary pressure is the only way to care about persisting. > > Cheers, > Telmo. > >> Brent >> >> >> >> On 9/10/2016 6:06 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> I published this working paper on arxiv, same title as this email: >>> http://arxiv.org/abs/1609.02009 >>> >>> Criticisms most welcome! >>> >>> Best, >>> Telmo. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
