If scientists are ignorant, as Dyson said, it's because they need a budget for 
better, novel, equipment. New equipment leads to new and better discoveries. I 
am betting we are now past the age of pure theoreticals, and we need scientists 
to wear the hat of the experimentalist, as well. 

Neutrino interceptors, off earth, etc..

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Subject: Re: No gravity / no dark matter




On 02 Dec 2016, at 21:28, Brent Meeker wrote:


          
I thought it was funny, and had a grain of truth (and I'm a      physicist).



To be sure, it applies to mathematicians, and biologists, too. It looks like 
after retirement, you are no more under the obligation to be rigorous, 
especially on philosophy, where rigor has been abandoned even by "professional" 
since long. It looks like people are afraid of admitting their fundamental 
ignorance before dying. It is the usual, and rather sane, fear of the unknown, 
but they won't admit it, I guess.


Bruno







Brent
    
    
    
On 12/2/2016 5:44 AM, spudboy100 via      Everything List wrote:
    
    
The comic        was creepy, Telmo, and inaccurate. Maybe I just need to grow a 
       sense of humor?
        
        
        
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          From: Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>
          To: everything-list <[email protected]>
          Sent: Fri, Dec 2, 2016 6:51 am
          Subject: Re: No gravity / no dark matter
          
          On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 12:06 AM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]>  
        wrote:
          >
          >
          > -----Original Message-----
          > From: Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>
          > To: everything-list <[email protected]>
          > Sent: Wed, Nov 30, 2016 3:33 pm
          > Subject: No gravity / no dark matter
          >
          > Hello,
          >
          > What do you guys think of this?
          >
          > 
http://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/remarkable-new-theory-says-theres-no-gravity-no-dark-matter-and-einstein-was-wrong
          >
          > Cheers
          > Telmo.
          >
          >
          > It's a respectable theory, but Verlinde needs to work out          
some testable
          > consequences.
          
          I was bored in an airport the other day and bought "The Grand         
 Design"
          by Hawking. He talks about his "model realism" philosophical          
stance --
          the idea that anything goes modelwise, as long as it fits the
          observable data. I like the idea, somehow. I know wonder if          
demanding
          one true model is not confusing the map with the territory.
          
          On the other hand, he also starts the book by explaining how
          philosophy is dead, and how more or less theoretical physics
          progressively makes all other fields of inquiry obsolete.
          
          It reminded me of this cartoon (with my apologies in advance          
to all
          the physicists in the room):
          
          http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2556
          
          Telmo.
          
          > There are several theories being pursued in which space          or
          > spacetime are phenomena emergent from entanglement of          
quantum fields. They
          > can be traced back to a proposal by Sakharov in the '50s.
          >
          > Brent
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