John, isn't there a Buddhist saying by the Buddha, "If the Buddha stands in your path (spiritual) strike him down"?
-----Original Message----- From: John Clark <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Dec 27, 2016 3:36 pm Subject: Re: An invisible fuzzy amoral mindless blob, aka God On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > My God, as you call it, is a testable theory, since physics is derived from a internal modal variant of self-reference. I derived formally a quantum logic, and explained informally how we get the statistical interference. A derivation using dozens of pronouns that either have no clear referent or are logically contradictory. But I believe we may have been through this before. > the Aristotelian theology fails. To hell with the ancient Greeks! > God is used in the philosophers sense: the primary cause, The primary cause may be attached to the word "God", but we both know that is not the only attachment, so is "a being who can think". > which is the god of the platonist. To hell with the ancient Greeks! > You talk like if scientists have solved the problem, but it has not. You talk as if theologians have solved the problem, but they have not. > (either Plato's God, or even Pythagoras" God To hell with the ancient Greeks! > In theology, the greeks were To hell with the ancient Greeks! > Don't confuse the first god of Aristotle (usually called God), the second God of Aristotle . (Primary Matter), the god of Plato (first principle) and the god of Pythagoras (the natural numbers). OK I won't confuse it, and I'll avoid confusion by ignoring both. To hell with the ancient Greeks! > two beers in the fridge is not rsponsible for the numbers 2 to exist physically, and here If there were nobody around to think about the number 2 and if there were not 2 of anything in the entire physical universe, then would the number 2 exist? And if it did, how would things be different if it didn't? > you beg the question by assuming the second god of Aristotle. To hell with the ancient Greeks! > It is the favorite gods of the catholics. I'll say this for the catholics, their view of God is clear, clearly wrong but clear nevertheless. Your view of God isn't even wrong. > The correct arithmetical relations implements all computations And all correct computations need matter that obeys the laws of physics. For some reason I'm feeling Deja Vu right now, I can't imagine why. > Nobody is interested in 2+2=5. Well you sure as hell better be interested in incorrect calculations if you want to avoid them! So I ask yet again , how can you, how can even God separate correct numerical relations from incorrect ones without the help of matter that obeys the laws of physics? You can't do it I can't do it and God can't do it. > With mechanism, we have the good theory of consciousness, Everybody has a theory on consciousness and none of them are worth a damn, I'd be much more interested in a theory of intelligence. >> God must be able to think or the word becomes a joke. > That shows only how much you take for granted the brainwashing of the clericals. Well, I may be brainwashed but according to you I'm smarter than God because I can think and God can't. > You Sir, are more catholic than the Pope, Wow, calling a guy known for disliking religion religious, never heard that one before, at least I never heard it before I was 12. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
