On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 4:33 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

​> ​
> Physical computation needs matter, because a physical computation is a
> mathematical computation implemented in a physical, material, environment.
> ​ ​
> But computations does not need matter,
>

​Suppose just for ​
​the sake ​of argument that non-physical computations did not exist, how
would our physical world be different? There would be no difference.
Therefore either
non-physical computations
​ do not exist or they do but are utterly unimportant, rather like the ​l
uminiferous aether
​.​

​> ​
> Mathematical computations exist in arithmetic, in the sense that they can
> be shown to exists in all interpretations of Robinson Arithmetic
> ​ [...]
>

Oh no, we're back to Robinson Arithmetic
​ again! It's time for you to put your money where your mouth is, it's time
for you to start the ​
Robinson
​ Computer Corporation and become the richest man on earth. ​


> ​> ​
> Here you beg the question of materialism by defining "computation" by
> "physical implementation of a mathematical computation".
>

​Definitions suck. Examples rule.​



>> ​>> ​
>> So which ONE of us has "*THE* 1-p you"?
>
>
> ​> ​
> Both.
>

​If it can't distinguish anything then why the hell did you invent the
idiotic term??​

 John K Clark

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