It's you who's begging the question, first define what is a computation
with physics first, without relying on abstract mathematical notion.

Le 23 avr. 2017 12:45 PM, "Bruce Kellett" <[email protected]> a
écrit :

> On 23/04/2017 6:53 pm, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
>
> Le 23 avr. 2017 10:32, "Bruce Kellett" <[email protected]> a
> écrit :
>
> But that does not prove that the computation does not run on a physical
> computer. I take JC's point to be that your assumption of the primacy of
> the abstract computation is unprovable. We at least have experience of
> physical computers, and not of non-physical computers. (Whatever you say to
> the contrary,
>
>
> You're making an ontological commitment and closing any discussion on
> it...
>
>
> All I am asking for is a demonstration of the contradiction that you all
> claim exists between computationalism and physicalism -- a contradiction
> that does not simply depend on a definition of computationalism that
> explicitly states "physicalism is false". In other words, where is the
> contradiction?  A demonstration that does not just beg the question.
>
> Bruce
>
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