On 02 May 2017, at 20:21, Brent Meeker wrote:



On 5/2/2017 1:01 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Your answer seems to be that physics can be an illusion of digital thought, therefore primary physics is otiose. But thought can't be a consequence of physics because....well you just don't see how it could be.

Not at all. It cannot be because you need to give a role to the primary matter which is not emulable by the UD, nor FPI-recoverable.

The obvious "role" is that some things exist and some don't. I don't know anyone who calls this "primary matter", but it's what is not UD emulable.

To reify something for which we have no evidence, just to avoid a problem, is a bit like a pseudo-religious move, like invoking a miracle or a god. You have to explain more on how that primary matter succeeds in linking the computational histories with consciousness. If it is non Turing emulable, I don't see why we could remain confident in a digital brain transplant.

Bruno




Brent

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