2017-05-03 17:44 GMT+02:00 Brent Meeker <[email protected]>: > > > On 5/3/2017 2:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 02 May 2017, at 20:21, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 5/2/2017 1:01 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > Your answer seems to be that physics can be an illusion of digital > thought, therefore primary physics is otiose. But thought can't be a > consequence of physics because....well you just don't see how it could be. > > > Not at all. It cannot be because you need to give a role to the primary > matter which is not emulable by the UD, nor FPI-recoverable. > > > The obvious "role" is that some things exist and some don't. I don't know > anyone who calls this "primary matter", but it's what is not UD emulable. > > > To reify something for which we have no evidence, just to avoid a problem, > > > You mean something like other worlds, just to make your theory simpler. I > would never accuse you of religious dogma for that. > > is a bit like a pseudo-religious move, like invoking a miracle or a god. > You have to explain more on how that primary matter succeeds in linking the > computational histories with consciousness. If it is non Turing emulable, I > don't see why we could remain confident in a digital brain transplant. > > > You're the one that says physics is non-Turing emulable - a consequence of > assuming an infinite number of worlds. >
You're playing with words here, indeed if mind is computational, not-mind aka physics is not... Quentin > > > Brent > > > > Bruno > > > > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. (Roy Batty/Rutger Hauer) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
