On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 9:31 PM, Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]>
wrote:

​
>> ​>>​
>> a rat can remember the past and a rat can use induction to make a
>> prediction, and most important of all a rat knows if it's prediction turned
>> out to be correct or not and that enables the rat to improve its induction
>> process for Mr. Rat's next prediction. But if Mr. I, who is about to enter
>> a "I" duplicating chamber, asks the question "Will I see Moscow tomorrow?"
>> the only answer Mr. I will ever get is "yes and no", and that is not an
>> answer so that was not a question.
>>
>
> ​> ​
> If even the rat can understand it at a primitive level (as demonstrated by
> its behaviour) then I think this goes against your claim that the question
> is meaningless.
>

​It's very meaningful when looking from the present back into the past, but
NOT when looking from the present toward the future. ​

People around here seem to think you can treat the future the same way you
treat the past but you can't, if you could then you couldn't tell the
difference between the past and the future, but you can.​



> ​> ​
> And I think that if you went through the duplication a few times your
> copies would start to behave as if questions about their future were
> meaningful.
>

​If you send the rats through the duplicator 10 times you'll end up with
2^10 or 1024 rats. ​All 1024 rats will have seen different things from each
other and thus have different memories, and thus formed different inductive
rules, and thus will behave differently in the future. And all 1024 rats no
matter how different their individual situation may be now will remember a
single unbroken chain of events going all the way back to that single
original rat. But the question wasn't about any member of that rat pack,
the question was asked 10 days and 10 duplications ago about the single
original rat:

*What ONE thing will the ONE rat see in the future after the ONE rat
becomes 1024 rats?*

That can't be answered and it's not because the answer is unknown
​,​
​its​
 because the answer does not exist and never will. All answers need a
corresponding question and despite its conspicuous question mark the above
is not a question, it's not even a stupid question, so there can't be an
answer to it.

John K Clark

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