On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 10:22:44 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote: > > On 12/11/2017 4:34 am, John Clark wrote: > > > > The title of this thread is about the consistency of Quantum Mechanics, > but far more important than QM is the ability of ANY theory to be > compatible with experimental results, and one of those experiments shows > the violation of Bell's Inequality. And that violation tells us that for > ANY theory to be successful at explaining how the world works AT LEAST one > of the following properties of that theory must be untrue: > > 1) Determinism > 2) Locality > 3) Realism > > > You have repeated this claim several times, John, but it is not strictly > true. Maudlin summarizes it like this: > > "Early on, Bell's result was often reported as ruling out *determinism*, > or *hidden variables*. Nowadays, it is sometimes reported as ruling out, > or at least calling in question, *realism*. But these are all mistakes. > What Bell's theorem, together with the experimental results, proves to be > impossible is not determinism or hidden variables or realism, but *locality, > *in a perfectly clear sense*. *What Bell proved, and what theoretical > physics has not yet properly absorbed, is that the physical world itself is > non-local." >
Which begs the question; operationally, what does non local mean? AG > > This is from the article Stathis pointed to: Tim Maudlin, arxiv:1408.1826 > He says the same thing in his book and numerous other articles where he > spells this out in considerable detail. > > Bruce > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
