On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 5:38:23 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
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> Non-locality. As Zeilinger says: "Any explanation of what goes on in a 
> specific individual observation of one photon has to take into account the 
> whole experimental apparatus of the complete quantum state consisting of 
> both photons, and it can only make sense after all information concerning 
> complementary variables has been recorded."
> arXiv:1206.6578
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> Bruce.
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This then means the measurement process is self-referential and could be 
said to be not computable by quantum means. In this way we have on some 
fundamental level a failure of any axiomatic description of so called 
collapse, or eigenbranching in MWI or all mechanisms proposed by quantum 
interpretations. In this sense I see self-reference in physics; it is what 
takes place with any fundamental decoherence of a wave function, which if 
some IGUS or intelligent being is involved we call it an observation.

LC

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