On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 5:38:23 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > > Non-locality. As Zeilinger says: "Any explanation of what goes on in a > specific individual observation of one photon has to take into account the > whole experimental apparatus of the complete quantum state consisting of > both photons, and it can only make sense after all information concerning > complementary variables has been recorded." > arXiv:1206.6578 > > Bruce. >
This then means the measurement process is self-referential and could be said to be not computable by quantum means. In this way we have on some fundamental level a failure of any axiomatic description of so called collapse, or eigenbranching in MWI or all mechanisms proposed by quantum interpretations. In this sense I see self-reference in physics; it is what takes place with any fundamental decoherence of a wave function, which if some IGUS or intelligent being is involved we call it an observation. LC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

