Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Bruno Marchal<marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
On 12 Jan 2018, at 20:48, K E N O <lucky@kenokeno.bingo> wrote: Nice! Can you imagine something totally useless as an application of AI? What would you creative if you just wanted to have fun with AI? Are you suggesting that fun is useless? I can agree that the idea that fun has some use is not much funny, but that does not make it false. “Useful” is quite relative, also. Flies have no use of spider webs. Bruno-------------------------------------------------------- Lol... no they do not, but spiders have a use for flies. Usefulness is a paradox. A deadly poison can be useful, not only to kill, but often as a life saving medicine. Many people who are alive today are alive because they were poisoned with medically calibrated doses.As you said "useful" is a highly subjective and relative term. It is shall we say highly entangled with the subject and the object. It is hard to speak of "usefulness", in fact without making reference to some relative and/or subjective highly entangled context. -Chris K E N O Am 12.01.2018 um 14:43 schrieb Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com>: Hi Lara, My view is that, as with all scientific theories and technologies, AI is morally neutral. it has the potential for both extremely good and extremely nasty practical applications. That being said, the unusual thing about AI is that it has the potential to generate *something that replaces us*. Some people say that it could happen in the next few decades, some people say that it will never happen. I don't think anyone knows. Leaving that more crazy question aside, and focusing on your question in relation to what can be done with AI right now: I think that the negativity that currently surrounds the technology says more about our species and our moment in culture than AI itself. You ask for positive AI goals: - Assisting and replacing health-care professionals, making health-care cheaper for everyone and more widely available to people in poor and remote regions; - Enabling advanced prosthetics: assisting people with sensory impairments, mitigating the consequences of ageing and so on; - Freeing us from labor, taking care of relatively simple and repetitive tasks such as growing food, collecting trash etc. - Self-driving cars can be great: they can reduce risk (traveling by car is one of the most dangerous means of transportation) and they can help the environment. If I can call a car from a pool of available cars to come pick me and drive me somewhere, a much more rational use of resources can be achieved and cities can become more livable (instead of being cluttered with cars that are parked most of the time); - Assisting scientific research, proving theorems, generating theories from data that are too counter-intuitive for humans (a bit of self-promotion: https://www.nature.com/articles/srep06284); - AI can be used to solve problems quite creatively, check this out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolved_antenna; - Personal assistants, but not the kind that are connected to some centralized corporate brain -- the kind that really works for you (example: https://mycroft.ai/) - etc, etc etc It is true that most funding currently goes towards three goals: - How to make you see more ads and buy more stuff; - How to let those in powers know more about what everyone is doing/saying/thinking in private, so that they can have even more power; - How to build weapons with it. This is our usual human stupidity at work. Stupidity tends to be self-destructive. I think the entire advertisement angle is already showing signs of collapse. There is hope. Focus on the first list. Cheers, Telmo. On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Lara <larer.stu...@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Everything, I have been working on my bachelor project with the topic Artificial Intelligence. Even though I have decided I want to create an AI-something to support an everyday activity, I am lost. I have done a lot of research and most of the time I am very critical: A lot of negative power is given to algorithms (like those big data algorithms deciding what we see online), some inventions could be very dangerous (self-driving cars) and most of the time inventions could be cool, if we ignored the evil people behind them. But for my bachelor I want to create a positive AI-thing for everyday life (with a prototype). 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