> On 17 Jan 2018, at 21:12, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > On 1/17/2018 12:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 16 Jan 2018, at 14:29, K E N O <lucky@kenokeno.bingo >>> <mailto:lucky@kenokeno.bingo>> wrote: >>> >>> Oh, no! As an media art student, I don’t believe in strict rules oft >>> usefulness (of course!). It was a rather suggestive or maybe even sarcastic >>> approach to get unusual thoughts from everything. >>> Maybe I should rephrase my question: What is the craziest AI application >>> you can think of? >> >> >> A long time ago, when “AI” was just an object of mockery, I saw a public >> challenge, and the winner was a proposition to make a tiny robot that you >> place on your head, capable of cutting the hairs "au fur et à mesure”. >> >> “AI” is a terrible naming term. “Artificial” is itself a very artificial >> term. It illustrates the human super-ego character. When machines will be >> really intelligent, they will ask for having better users, and social >> security. When they will be as clever as us, they will do war and demolish >> the planet, I guess. >> >> Minski is right. We can be happy if tomorrow the machine will have humans as >> pets … >> >> There is also a confusion between competence and intelligence. With higher >> competences we become more efficacious in doing our usual stupidities ... > > So do you think that competence entails intelligence which entails > consciousness?
Competence makes intelligence sleepy. And intelligence requires consciousness. It is a bit like: Consciousness ==> intelligence ==> competence ==> stupidity > > There have been recent discoveries about sleep in animals. Apparently ALL > animals need sleep, even jellyfish. But, there is no really good theory of > why. I wonder if your theory can throw any light on this? I don't think > there's anything analogous for computers...but maybe if they were intelligent > and interacted with their environment they would be. I can only speculate here. Sleep might be needed to “reconstruct the dekstop” or something. My older computer makes a 5m nap every 20 minutes! In higher mammals, I think that sleep allows dreams, which allows some training of the mind, (re)evaluation of past events, etc. But sleep remains still very mysterious. Maybe it is the time to get back to heaven, but then we can’t remember it, … Don’t take this not too much seriously. Bruno > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com > <mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
