Ok, I'm in bed recovering from flu. I watched the video.

So we have:

* Jack Trowbridge was First Lieutenant at Roswell. He claims that he
was playing bridge at the house of a superior, and that he showed up
with some alien material. It had strange hieroglyphs and "you squeezed
it up in your hands as hard as you could, you let go, and it returned
to originally, to the original shape. Instantly!" He described it as
looking like Hershey bar wrapping, but also said that it looked
nothing like the material in a weather balloon. He was 91 when he was
interviewed.

* Carlene Greene is daughter of Sgt. Homer Rowlett, Jr. His father
passed away in 1988. According to her he died of cancer of the spine,
caused by exposure to agent orange in Vietname. She also claims that
"he did not want to die at home", and was taken to a military
hospital. Saying goodbye, he told Carlene that "the incident
happened", "there was a spaceship" and "the aliens were there". Then
he kissed her and that's the last she saw of him.

* Larry Rowlett, son of Sgt. Home Rowlett Jr. Claims to have had an
"ok but not great" relationship with his father. Claims that he was
talking to his dad in the late 80s, when he told him that he was part
of the cleaning crew that dealt with the crash site. That he saw the
"grays", referring to alien corpses that he had to clean up. That the
government told him and his colleagues that they should never talk
about this, threatening them with their pensions.

* Savage M. Dodson, "I was a young GI, 22 years old at Roswell in
1947". Did technical work at the base. Claims to have been prevented
from going inside an hangar that he used to go to everyday by some guy
with a gun. 3 days later the guy with the gun was gone and he was
allowed to go inside again, no problem. Claims that the only
explanation for this is that they were hiding aliens.

* Pat Bush, Miriam's Bush sister-in-law. Miriam was an executive
secretary at the base's hospital. Claims that the head of the hospital
wanted to show her something, and took her to the place where the
alien bodies were stored. She looked at them from a distance, claiming
that they wouldn't let her go near. She saw one of the bodies move its
middle finger (ha!). She was excited by what she had seen and told her
family that evening at the dinner table. Later she was very frightened
by something and told the family to never mention any of this again.
Pat claims that she always felt very sorry for Miriam because she
lived in fear after that. She claims that they started looking into it
after Miriam's death, and that other people involved in Roswell at the
time had "died mysterious deaths". Miriam dies mysteriously alone in a
hotel while being registered under her sister's name. Police said it
was suicide.

So this amounts to two direct witnesses: Jack Trowbridge saw some
weird material and Savage Dodson was prevented to enter a military
hangar that he usually had access to.

The other three appear to be people dealing with personal tragedies.
This is obviously the case for Carlene Greene and Pat Bush. With Larry
Rowlett it is not so clear, but it seems quite obvious to me that he
has some sort of "daddy issues".

Regarding "Sirius Disclosure":

I am not bored enough to read all the documents. If you insist that
there is some particularly good piece of evidence, tell me what and
I'll take a look. Let's address the most spectacular pieces of
"evidence".

* The Atacma Skeleton has meanwhile been found to contain human DNA
and to contain the B2 haplotype group. It could be an aborted fetus
and/or someone born with a severe genetic anomaly. It is definitely
human and it is definitely from that region.

* The photos are either the usual black-and-white photos of street
lamps in the 50s and 60s, or they are taken with "highly sophisticated
equipment", meaning some camera with ISOs above 100000. Do you have a
good quality camera with you? Can you set it to very high ISO and take
some photos at night with low light? You will see lots of UFOs too.

I would be terribly excited if you could provide credible evidence for
ET visitations. I think everyone on this list would. Unfortunately,
you have nothing that cannot be easily explained in a much more
trivial way.

Here's the Flake equation:
https://xkcd.com/718/

And a song to cheer you up :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsotRi593ic

Best,
Telmo.

On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 2:44 PM,  <agrayson2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 12:03:58 AM UTC-5, agrays...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 11:57:08 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/27/2018 6:52 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 8:28:27 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 7:00:56 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/27/2018 2:40 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 3:32:18 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/27/2018 10:10 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> > I used to work on Carl Sagan's staff and I know his views quite
>>>>>> > well.
>>>>>> > What is striking about the YouTube videos, particularly the one
>>>>>> > initiating the organization, where many physicists, engineers,
>>>>>> > astronauts, etc;, were present affirming the existence of
>>>>>> > extraterrestrials in contact with our present day civilization, is
>>>>>> > that they are BANNED! This should tell you something about the
>>>>>> > so-called respect for "free speech" and objective analysis of
>>>>>> > information contradicting the conventional wisdom.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When something is BANNED, but freely available, I'm reminded of how
>>>>>> novels used to be advertised as "Banned in Boston."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > You are an example of someone whose assessment on this subject is
>>>>>> > based ENTIRELY but a negative bias. You don't actually know squat
>>>>>> > about extra terrestrial intelligence,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But then neither do you, since there's no evidence on the subject.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just eyewitness accounts from people of all walks of life, like those
>>>>> reports of stones falling from the sky in the 19th Century. AG
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> When people said stones fell from the sky they were asked where were
>>>>> the stones?  When a stone was found they were believed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brent
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There were also some spectacular events. 150 years ago a Chelyabinsk
>>>> scale meteoroid or asteroid exploded over Poland. Lots of rocks fell out of
>>>> the sky. This meant a lot of people saw this. A fair number of these events
>>>> were public displays. UFOs tend not to have that feature.
>>>
>>>
>>> There are cases on record of many UFO's being sighted by large numbers of
>>> individuals. For example, google "Phoenix lights". AG
>>>
>>>
>>> I've seen UFO's myself.  But just because I couldn't identify the
>>> aircraft didn't cause me to assume they were aliens from other planets.
>>>
>>> Brent
>>
>>
>> A "UFO" is just that; an unidentified flying object. However, a small
>> percentage lead to the "extraordinary" conclusion. AG
>
>
> Consider this hypothetical event, of which several examples exist; a saucer
> shaped craft circles and follows a commercial airliner over a remote region,
> making no noise and exhibiting maneuvers which seem unlike anything possible
> with human technology, and witnessed by the crew and passengers. Since high
> performance aircraft developed by Skunk Works and tested at Area 51, are,
> for security reasons, restricted to Area 51, one wonders why a craft with
> such advanced flight characteristics would be seen circling a commercial
> aircraft far from any military test areas  This is SUGGESTIVE of an ET
> contact, but obviously NOT conclusive. What changed my mind on the subject
> is the short video I posted, which was likely NOT viewed by the skeptics
> here who affirm the negative about the Roswell Event. Since I found the six
> witnesses in the video completely CREDIBLE, I believe an ET craft crashed at
> Roswell, was recovered by the US military, and the entire incident was, and
> remains, classified at the highest level. Previously I held the view that a
> balloon from the then highly classified Project Mogul had crashed and was
> recovered at Roswell. AG
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