On Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 10:08:17 AM UTC-5, telmo_menezes wrote: > > Ok, I'm in bed recovering from flu. I watched the video. > > So we have: > > * Jack Trowbridge was First Lieutenant at Roswell. He claims that he > was playing bridge at the house of a superior, and that he showed up > with some alien material. It had strange hieroglyphs and "you squeezed > it up in your hands as hard as you could, you let go, and it returned > to originally, to the original shape. Instantly!" He described it as > looking like Hershey bar wrapping, but also said that it looked > nothing like the material in a weather balloon. He was 91 when he was > interviewed. >
*IIRC, Jesse Marcel Jr. son of the base intelligence officer, also handled the * *material with the same report. It** could be hard evidence of ET contact if it wasn't* *from a Project Mogul balloon, yet after more than 70 years the US government* *still won't release the material, or a facsimile, to dispel the myth. As for **his age, * *that's just a cheap shot. Not everyone of that age contracts Alzheimer's, and it's* *entirely plausible that he would have retained a vivid memory of the event. AG * * Carlene Greene is daughter of Sgt. Homer Rowlett, Jr. His father > passed away in 1988. According to her he died of cancer of the spine, > caused by exposure to agent orange in Vietname. She also claims that > "he did not want to die at home", and was taken to a military > hospital. Saying goodbye, he told Carlene that "the incident > happened", "there was a spaceship" and "the aliens were there". Then > he kissed her and that's the last she saw of him. > > * Larry Rowlett, son of Sgt. Home Rowlett Jr. Claims to have had an > "ok but not great" relationship with his father. Claims that he was > talking to his dad in the late 80s, when he told him that he was part > of the cleaning crew that dealt with the crash site. That he saw the > "grays", referring to alien corpses that he had to clean up. That the > government told him and his colleagues that they should never talk > about this, threatening them with their pensions. > *Plausible IMO. And maybe had a not great relationship with his dad. Not* *material to his testimony. AG * > > * Savage M. Dodson, "I was a young GI, 22 years old at Roswell in > 1947". Did technical work at the base. Claims to have been prevented > from going inside an hangar that he used to go to everyday by some guy > with a gun. 3 days later the guy with the gun was gone and he was > allowed to go inside again, no problem. Claims that the only > explanation for this is that they were hiding aliens. > > * Pat Bush, Miriam's Bush sister-in-law. Miriam was an executive > secretary at the base's hospital. Claims that the head of the hospital > wanted to show her something, and took her to the place where the > alien bodies were stored. She looked at them from a distance, claiming > that they wouldn't let her go near. She saw one of the bodies move its > middle finger (ha!). She was excited by what she had seen and told her > family that evening at the dinner table. Later she was very frightened > by something and told the family to never mention any of this again. > Pat claims that she always felt very sorry for Miriam because she > lived in fear after that. She claims that they started looking into it > after Miriam's death, and that other people involved in Roswell at the > time had "died mysterious deaths". Miriam dies mysteriously alone in a > hotel while being registered under her sister's name. Police said it > was suicide. > *Again, entirely plausible IMO. AG * > > So this amounts to two direct witnesses: Jack Trowbridge saw some > weird material and Savage Dodson was prevented to enter a military > hangar that he usually had access to. > > The other three appear to be people dealing with personal tragedies. > This is obviously the case for Carlene Greene and Pat Bush. With Larry > Rowlett it is not so clear, but it seems quite obvious to me that he > has some sort of "daddy issues". > > Regarding "Sirius Disclosure": > > I am not bored enough to read all the documents. If you insist that > there is some particularly good piece of evidence, tell me what and > I'll take a look. Let's address the most spectacular pieces of > "evidence". > > * The Atacma Skeleton has meanwhile been found to contain human DNA > and to contain the B2 haplotype group. It could be an aborted fetus > and/or someone born with a severe genetic anomaly. It is definitely > human and it is definitely from that region. > > * The photos are either the usual black-and-white photos of street > lamps in the 50s and 60s, or they are taken with "highly sophisticated > equipment", meaning some camera with ISOs above 100000. Do you have a > good quality camera with you? Can you set it to very high ISO and take > some photos at night with low light? You will see lots of UFOs too. > > I would be terribly excited if you could provide credible evidence for > ET visitations. I think everyone on this list would. Unfortunately, > you have nothing that cannot be easily explained in a much more > trivial way. > *Then why does the government continue to refuse to release facsimiles of the * *Project Mogul balloons, or better yet what was recovered at Roswell i**f it didn't * *have something to hide? AG * > > Here's the Flake equation: > https://xkcd.com/718/ > > And a song to\ cheer you up :) > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsotRi593ic > > Best, > Telmo. > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 2:44 PM, <agrays...@gmail.com <javascript:>> > wrote: > > > > > > On Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 12:03:58 AM UTC-5, > agrays...@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 11:57:08 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 2/27/2018 6:52 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 8:28:27 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 7:00:56 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 2/27/2018 2:40 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 3:32:18 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 2/27/2018 10:10 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>>> > I used to work on Carl Sagan's staff and I know his views quite > >>>>>> > well. > >>>>>> > What is striking about the YouTube videos, particularly the one > >>>>>> > initiating the organization, where many physicists, engineers, > >>>>>> > astronauts, etc;, were present affirming the existence of > >>>>>> > extraterrestrials in contact with our present day civilization, > is > >>>>>> > that they are BANNED! This should tell you something about the > >>>>>> > so-called respect for "free speech" and objective analysis of > >>>>>> > information contradicting the conventional wisdom. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> When something is BANNED, but freely available, I'm reminded of how > >>>>>> novels used to be advertised as "Banned in Boston." > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > You are an example of someone whose assessment on this subject is > >>>>>> > based ENTIRELY but a negative bias. You don't actually know squat > >>>>>> > about extra terrestrial intelligence, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> But then neither do you, since there's no evidence on the subject. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Just eyewitness accounts from people of all walks of life, like > those > >>>>> reports of stones falling from the sky in the 19th Century. AG > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> When people said stones fell from the sky they were asked where were > >>>>> the stones? When a stone was found they were believed. > >>>>> > >>>>> Brent > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> There were also some spectacular events. 150 years ago a Chelyabinsk > >>>> scale meteoroid or asteroid exploded over Poland. Lots of rocks fell > out of > >>>> the sky. This meant a lot of people saw this. A fair number of these > events > >>>> were public displays. UFOs tend not to have that feature. > >>> > >>> > >>> There are cases on record of many UFO's being sighted by large numbers > of > >>> individuals. For example, google "Phoenix lights". AG > >>> > >>> > >>> I've seen UFO's myself. But just because I couldn't identify the > >>> aircraft didn't cause me to assume they were aliens from other > planets. > >>> > >>> Brent > >> > >> > >> A "UFO" is just that; an unidentified flying object. However, a small > >> percentage lead to the "extraordinary" conclusion. AG > > > > > > Consider this hypothetical event, of which several examples exist; a > saucer > > shaped craft circles and follows a commercial airliner over a remote > region, > > making no noise and exhibiting maneuvers which seem unlike anything > possible > > with human technology, and witnessed by the crew and passengers. Since > high > > performance aircraft developed by Skunk Works and tested at Area 51, > are, > > for security reasons, restricted to Area 51, one wonders why a craft > with > > such advanced flight characteristics would be seen circling a commercial > > aircraft far from any military test areas This is SUGGESTIVE of an ET > > contact, but obviously NOT conclusive. What changed my mind on the > subject > > is the short video I posted, which was likely NOT viewed by the skeptics > > here who affirm the negative about the Roswell Event. Since I found the > six > > witnesses in the video completely CREDIBLE, I believe an ET craft > crashed at > > Roswell, was recovered by the US military, and the entire incident was, > and > > remains, classified at the highest level. Previously I held the view > that a > > balloon from the then highly classified Project Mogul had crashed and > was > > recovered at Roswell. AG > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "Everything List" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > > email to everything-li...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > > To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.com > <javascript:>. > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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