On 3/8/2018 4:36 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote:


On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 2:52:11 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote:

    Modern physics tends to operate on the idea of geodesics and
    geometric determined flows.


*Do you agree that the fact that the flow is geodesic is ultimately a postulate, and the existence of the flow is rooted in the monotonic increase of time? AG
*

There is no "flow".  Time is just another dimension and there are different configurations at different times just as there are different configurations at different places.  It's a block universe picture.

Brent


    A geodesic is "determined" from an initial point, which can just
    be a point where data is specified instead of some point of
    origin, where the position on a manifold and the tangent vector
    are specified. From there the dynamics is completely determined.
    For a quantum system things are more nuanced with there being a
    bundle of paths with some congruent condition given by
    diffeomorphism and Weyl transformations "modded out."

    In spacetime and general relativity these geodesic flows obey the
    geodesic deviation equation dU/ds = R(UV)V, and are determined by
    the curvature of spacetime. Here U = dx/ds is the relative
    velocity between two test masses. Now we might imagine a tether
    between these two test masses. Now their relative separation
    distance is constant and the two masses are not on a geodesic
    path. However, the center of mass of the two are on a geodesic.
    The individual masses are then on nongeodesic paths due to the
    material forces of the tether.

    LC

    On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 6:24:59 AM UTC-6,
    agrays...@gmail.com wrote:



        On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 11:04:09 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:



            On 3/7/2018 5:39 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote:
            *Thanks for your time and effort, but I don't think you
            understand my*
            *question. Suppose a test particle is restrained
            spatially, say in *
            *the Sun's gravitational field. When released, it starts
            to move (toward *
            *the Sun). How does GR explain this motion? By the
            advance of time? AG*

            Time was advancing all along.  Your restraint was a force
            causing the particle to follow a non-geodesic path through
            space-time.  When you released it, it then followed the
            "straightest path possible", i.e. a geodesic.

            Brent


        So time is the "culprit". What has this resumption of spatial
        motion (along a geodesic in spacetime) have to do with
        conservation of momentum, if at all ? TIA, AG

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