On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 11:34 AM, Lawrence Crowell <
[email protected]> wrote:

*> This further might connect with the whole idea of up-loading minds into
> computers. Brains and their states are not just localized states but
> networks, and it could well be that this is not tractable.*


If the brain is a network it is a network with a finite number of vertices
and a finite number of lines connecting those vertices. For uploading
you’re not trying to optimize or do anything with the network except to
just list all the lines and vertices in a network that already exists. You
don’t need to find some exotic new algorithm that can solve NP complete
problems in polynomial time to do that, you just need a few trillion
nano-machines that can feel around inside a brain and report back on what
they’ve discovered. And as I said before, even if a general class of
problems has been proven to be difficult that just means some specific
examples of it are, it doesn’t mean all or even most are and in fact some
could be quite easy. In general factoring large numbers is hard and 2^1000
is huge but it would be remarkably easy to factor.

There is another thing that confuses me, you seem to be implying nobody
should engage in Cryonics unless it has been proven with mathematical
certainty to work, and that doesn’t seem wise to me unless you know of a
reason that being frozen will make
​me​
 deader than being eaten by worms.

*> As a general rule once these threads gets past 100 I tend not to post
> any more. It becomes to annoying to find my way around them.*


I can sympathize, I’ve been complaining about that for years, but the
problem really isn’t 100 posts its that most people refuse to trim anything
when they respond so you end up with a vast iterated sea of quotes of quote
of quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes and its very
hard to tell who said what. Its frustrating to scroll down through page
after page of quotes only to be rewarded at the end with one cryptic new
line like “that’s not true”.

 John K Clark

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