On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 6:09:10 PM UTC, [email protected] wrote: > > > > On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 12:59:00 PM UTC, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Friday, April 6, 2018 at 9:35:18 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Friday, April 6, 2018 at 4:04:55 PM UTC, [email protected] wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, April 6, 2018 at 2:45:40 PM UTC, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 3:20:39 PM UTC-5, [email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Assuming that QM is a non-local theory, if two systems become >>>>>> entangled, say via a measurement, do they necessary have a non-local >>>>>> connection? That is, does entanglement necessarily imply non-locality? AG >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Entanglement is a form of nonlocality. >>>>> >>>>> LC >>>>> >>>> >>>> OK, that's what I thought, but consider this. It's clear that >>>> information can't be transmitted due to entanglement or non locality. But >>>> aren't we entangled with the external world, yet receive information from >>>> it? TIA, AG >>>> >>> >>> Or look at it this way; if I am NOT entangled with the photons coming my >>> way allowing me to SEE the world, and NOT entangled with the various >>> pressure waves that enable me to hear and feel the world, what I am >>> entangled with? TIA, AG >>> >> >> The classical or macroscopic world is in part at least related to how >> quantum states are entangled at different times with other states in the >> environment. This though is not a level of description that can tell you >> much about these specific interactions. The quantum world is in effect in a >> sort of random Zeno machine that continually reduces wave functions, and in >> effect it can be argued it does this to itself. Quantum phases are being >> continually mixed and re-entangled so as to generate a sort of quantum >> phase chaos. >> >> LC >> > > *This sounds reasonable, but when I try to apply I run into big trouble. > Suppose there's a free Nitrogen molecule coming my way, and when it strikes > me I experience a breeze. Am I ever entangled with it prior to impact? > IIUC, its wf spreads with time. Same for an assumed wave packet. Not sure > which wf is appropriate to apply, That aside, but whichever, that's an > initial form which spreads and it is most concentrated when initially > observed. But where is the observer to set the initial condition? TIA, AG* >
*The general question is this; how does one get an entangled system from two UN-entangled systems, each with its own WF? TIA, AG * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
