On Saturday, April 28, 2018 at 8:34:53 PM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 4/28/2018 7:13 AM, John Clark wrote: > > On Apr 26, 2018 , Brent Meeker <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > > * > Or it's proven that a quantum computer is not conscious.* > > > On Apr 27, 2018 , Brent Meeker <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > > * > The CI got a bad rap because some woo-woo merchants seized on the >> idea that is was consciousness that collapsed the wave-function; which was >> never what Heisenberg or Bohr said. * >> > > Well which is it? Is consciousness involved or is it not? The MWI says > conscious stuff involves the same laws of physics as everything else and > the Schrodinger wave equation means what it says. > > > And that what appears to be collapse of the wave function is a spreading > of it to the environment (including measuring instruments) so that it is > approximately separable into orthogonal branches....consciousness need not > be involved. > > Brent > > I would add this; even assuming that consciousness is ultimately based on quantum processes, where's the argument that consciousness is responsible for the collapse?. As I've told Clark 43 times, Feynman showed that a device can record the output on the screen (interference, collapse, not the which-way situation) without any intervention by a conscious being. AG
> My intuition is the MWI is correct but my intuition has been wrong before > so we won't know for sure until experiment tells us. > > John K Clark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <javascript:>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
