On Thu, 3 May 2018 at 10:42 pm, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

All correct arithmetical mathematical calculations may exist in some
> mystical Platonic universe and all possible books may too, but you need
> matter to sort out the correct calculations from the incorrect ones and the
> good books from the gibberish
> ​;​
> matter in the form of a calculating machine in one case and the author
> Jorge Luis Borges in the other.
>

In general, yes: it could be said that there is a computation, but it is of
no use to us. But what if the computation is one that implements a virtual
world with conscious observers? In that case, it is still of no use to us,
but I can't see any reason why the consciousness of those observers should
be dependent on us.

>

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