On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 4:40 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> I don't have a main dogma but if I did it would be information not matter. > > > > > *That contradicts you argument where you were to matter needed for a > computation to just exist.* > I don't think so. A random collection of atoms is unlikely to be able to perform a calculation and a random collection of mathematical symbols is unlikely to be a proof of anything. In both cases the interesting part is not the individual atoms or the individual mathematical symbols, it is the way they are organized. That's why I said information is as close as you can get to the traditional religious concept of the soul and still remain within the scientific method. > >* * > *If not, where is the problem to accept the facts that not only the > arithmetical reality contains all computations,* > All correct arithmetical mathematical calculations may exist in some mystical Platonic universe and all possible books may too, but you need matter to sort out the correct calculations from the incorrect ones and the good books from the gibberish ; matter in the form of a calculating machine in one case and the author Jorge Luis Borges in the other. John K Clark > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

