On 5/18/2018 10:53 PM, [email protected] wrote:


On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 5:29:33 AM UTC, Brent wrote:



    On 5/18/2018 10:14 PM, [email protected] <javascript:> wrote:

    *So why don't you draw the obvious inference? If those other
    worlds don't exist -- which if I can read English has been your
    passionate position all along -- then quantum measurements in
    this world, the only world, are statistical and hence NOT
    reversible in principle. AG*

        but it is different in each branch of the wave function, so
        reversing this branch does nothing for the others, and does
        not restore the original superposition. Thus the process is
        irreversible in principle (nomologically irreversible -- to
        reverse violates the laws of physics).


    *But if those other worlds don't exist, it makes no sense
    whatever to rely on them to establish irreversible in principle
    in this world (as distinguished from statistically irreversible
    or irreversible FAPP). It seems you want to have it both ways;
    that many worlds really don't exist. but quantum measurements in
    this world are irreversible in principle due the existence of
    many worlds. AG*

    You don't handle uncertainty well, do you.

    Brent


You know, it's not a perfect analogy, but I don't believe that when I pull the one arm bandit with 64 million possible outcomes, that 64 million (minus one) worlds are created, each with an identical copy of me, getting those other outcomes. What do you believe? AG

I believe I'll wait for a better theory.  One that includes gravity and spacetime and consciousness.

Brent

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