On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 at 10:06:39 PM UTC, Brent wrote:
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> On 5/22/2018 6:39 AM, [email protected] <javascript:> wrote:
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> I'm OK with getting rid of the projection operator. Are you now claiming 
>> information is lost or inaccessible in these orthogonal subspaces and 
>> therefore quantum measurements cannot be reversed? 
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>> They are inaccessible to the people of any one world of the MWI.  
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> No!  Irreversible FAPP!  Think heat bath or Bucky Balls.
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_decoherence
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> Examples of non-unitary modelling of decoherence Decoherence 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decoherence> can be modelled as a non-
> unitary <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitary_operator> process by which 
> a system couples with its environment (although the combined system plus 
> environment evolves in a unitary fashion).[4] 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_decoherence#cite_note-Lidar_and_Whaley-4>
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> Thus the dynamics of the system alone, treated in isolation, are 
> non-unitary and, as such, are represented by irreversible transformations 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreversibility> acting on the system's 
> Hilbert 
> space <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert_space>, H {\displaystyle 
> {\mathcal {H}}} [image: {\mathcal {H}}]. Since the system's dynamics are 
> represented by irreversible representations, then any information present 
> in the quantum system can be lost to the environment or heat bath 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_bath>. Alternatively, the decay of 
> quantum information caused by the coupling of the system to the environment 
> is referred to as decoherence.[3] 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_decoherence#cite_note-Bacon-3> 
> Thus decoherence is the process by which information of a quantum system is 
> altered by the system's interaction with its environment (which form a 
> closed system), hence creating an entanglement 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement> between the system 
> and heat bath (environment). As such, since the system is entangled with 
> its environment in some unknown way, a description of the system by itself 
> cannot be made without also referring to the environment (i.e. without also 
> describing the state of the environment).
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> Notice that this doesn't explain how one gets to a single result.
>
> Brent
>

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