On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 01:25 Dr Russell Standish wrote:
        > "But presumably the argument is about certain cognitive skills which 
helped our species be extraordinarily successful, and also gave us the 
capability to understand algebraic topology."

I've always found it a bit mysterious that humans are so good at abstract 
mathematics. I can see that the evolutionary pressures to improve tool making 
and hunting skills could have given us basic mathematical capabilities - but we 
are far better at it than seems reasonable. i.e. it seems a stretch to imagine 
our ability to understand differential equations and prove Fermat's last 
theorem just fell into place as an accidental by product of something else.

It seems to me that a lot of complex engineering in our brains must exist to 
support the level of abstract reasoning we are capable of - and I don't see 
much evolutionary advantage to explain how this evolved.

We are familiar with the idea that a large multiverse could explain the 
apparent fine tuning of our universe to support conscious observers. I.e. given 
we are conscious observers it shouldn't be surprising that we find ourselves in 
a part of the multiverse that allows our existence.

However, right now we aren't just conscious observers, we are conscious 
observers pondering the unreasonable effectiveness of brains to do mathematics. 
Maybe similarly to the fine tuning argument we shouldn't be surprised to find 
ourselves in a part of the multiverse where brains did develop mathematical 
ability. It would have been extremely unlikely for our brains to have evolved 
the way they did - but in a sufficiently large multiverse we will inevitably 
find ourselves in the place where it did - given that we are observer moments 
that must have exactly that kind of abstract reasoning capability to understand 
this point!

Is it valid to use this kind of reasoning? To use the details of the type of 
conscious experience we are having right now to condition the type of universe 
we expect to find ourselves in? I'm not sure to be honest - but I think there 
is a mystery to be explained so the idea is appealing.

Note if it's true that evolving mathematical capability was a long shot, then a 
consequence of it would be that it would be very unlikely that we find 
technologically advanced aliens in the observable universe. There are a lot of 
stars out there - but the small probability of brains evolving abstract 
reasoning would overwhelm that I suspect.

- Steven Ridgway




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