On 6/18/2018 11:51 PM, 'scerir' via Everything List wrote:
Il 18 giugno 2018 alle 2.24 Russell Standish <[email protected]> ha scritto:
There's considerable evolutionary advantage, just not enough time yet
for evolution to have acted :).
For some reason this reminds me of a quote: "It is because we have blindly excluded the 
lessons of these regular bodies from the domain of human knowledge that we are still in doubt about 
the great doctrine that the only laws of matter are those which our minds must fabricate, and the 
only laws of mind are fabricated for it by matter". -James Clerck Maxwell, "Analogies in 
Nature", Feb. 1856,  (The Scientific Letters and Papers of James Clerk Maxwell: 1846-1862).

I'm inclined to think there is something deeper at work here, deeper than the 
evolution based on the survival of the fittest (are mathematicians fittest?).

Not survival of the fittest, but survival of those who reproduce (which leaves out a lot of mathematicians).  Reasoning and what used to be taught at rhetoric, is part of the art of persuasion.  Master it and be a leader of men and a seducer of women.

Brent

I'm inclined to think there is a smooth transition from matter to form or - to 
say it better - to information (and mathematics may be a sort of *objective* 
*testable* information theory about possible worlds, relations, laws of nature, 
objects). Hylo-morphism.


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