On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 10:50:05PM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote:
> 
> 
> On 6/18/2018 4:44 AM, Steven Ridgway wrote:
> >     On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 01:25 Dr Russell Standish wrote:
> >     > "But presumably the argument is about certain cognitive skills which 
> > helped our species be extraordinarily successful, and also gave us the 
> > capability to understand algebraic topology."
> > 
> > I've always found it a bit mysterious that humans are so good at abstract 
> > mathematics. I can see that the evolutionary pressures to improve tool 
> > making and hunting skills could have given us basic mathematical 
> > capabilities - but we are far better at it than seems reasonable. i.e. it 
> > seems a stretch to imagine our ability to understand differential equations 
> > and prove Fermat's last theorem just fell into place as an accidental by 
> > product of something else.
> > 
> > It seems to me that a lot of complex engineering in our brains must exist 
> > to support the level of abstract reasoning we are capable of - and I don't 
> > see much evolutionary advantage to explain how this evolved.
> 
> It's not that abstract mathematics provides an evolutionary advantage (just
> look at the reproduction rate of mathematicians). But making persuasive
> arguments very much does, and logical inference is important in persuasive
> argument.


There was a slight misinterpretation of my original statement, not
deliberate I'm sure.

I was alluding to a group selection effect - that a society or species
that includes practising mathematicians will outcompete one that
doesn't. It's not to say that the mathematicians themselves are
evolutionarily fit individuals - as has been pointed out, the evidence
weighs against this.

A similar argument is made for the continuing presence of
homosexuality - there is a group selection effect (probably kin
selection) that helps maintain homosexuality as a small percentage of
the population, even if the individuals are much less likely to reproduce.


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