On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 10:56 AM, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >* * >> *I am not sure I am seeing the relevance of your comments to what I >> said. Are you disputing that computational relations are embodied by >> statements concerning solutions to certain polynomial equations?* >> > > No I'm not disputing that, but computational relations couldn't exist > without computations, and computations couldn't exist without matter that > obeys the laws of physics. > Why couldn't it be the other way around? e.g. that mathematical computations are what give us physics? In other words, why do you place physics on such firmer ground than mathematics? Are you certain physics is primary, and not mathematics? If so, I would like to know the reason for this certainty. Jason > > >> > >> *Do you believe "7 is prime" was true before any human mathematician >> considered the question?* >> > > > Yes, but if there was ever a time when not even one thing existed, much > less seven things, then you could assume 7 is prime and it would produce no > contradictions or you could assume 7 is not prime and it would produce no > contradictions either because the concept of “seven" would be meaningless > as would the concept of “prime". Well... you could assume that except that > if nothing existed then you wouldn't either so you couldn't assume anything > nor could anybody else. > > > John K Clark > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
