> On 31 Jul 2018, at 01:51, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: John Clark <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >> Einstein didn't say nothing can move faster than light, he only said matter >> and energy and information can't. Thanks to recent experiments with Bell's >> Inequality we already have rock solid evidence that quantum influences (but >> not information) can move much faster than light and are consistent with >> being instantaneous . >> >> John K Clark > > I am glad that someone else on this list actually understand the implications > of Bell's theorem. In fact, it is not even Bell's theorem that is important > here -- it is the experimental confirmation of the existence of correlations > between space-like separated events that shows that instantaneous > influence-at-a-distance exists.
You contradict one of your preview post. I take the violation of Bell’s inequality as an evidence that we belong ourself to superposition. That follows from the axiom: no instantaneous *physical* actions at a distance. Without collapse, all interactions are local and propagate at reasonable speed. > Bell ruled out any local hidden variable explanation, Yes, but he assumes a unique physical reality, as he acknowledge in his critics of Everett, or in his Bohm-like interpretation of Everett, which is indeed non-local in the strong sense (*physical* instantaneity). > but we could have non-local hidden variables (Bohm). These, if material, > would be FTL, but one does not need to go down this path, and there is no > evidence for it. We don’t need to on that path indeed. The *appearance* of the action at a distance is given in a local and deterministic way by the evolution of the universal wave (or just the wave great enough to contains the observers and some part of their light cones). Bruno > > Bruce > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
