On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 5:06 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 11 Aug 2018, at 02:29, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> > > On 9 Aug 2018, at 14:03, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The original Alice and Bob are those in the same branch of the wave > function all the way along. There are no unmatched Alices or Bobs. > > > In each branch, I agree. But to get the reasoning right, and treat the > case of the violation of Bell’s inequality, we need to take into account > the unmatched Alice and Bob who exist “transworldly” if I can say. They > belong to different branches, and can never meet again. That is important > to make the FTL eventually into an illusion, still keeping the violation of > the Bell’s inequality. > > > It is fairly clear that you are not talking about quantum mechanics here, > but rather about some weird theory of your own. There is no infinity of > Alices and Bobs who exist before any measurement is made. > > > Do you agree that there is an infinity of Alice in the case of aIu> + bId> > when a^2 is irrational? I really don’t see how you interpret the singlet > state in the non-collapse QM. > > > > > They do not "belong to different branches" because they do not exist, and > have never existed. This notion seems to be important to your idea, and I > can assure you that you are wrong about this. > > > How could that be possible? You suppress the infinities of Alice and Bob > only because you know in advance what is the direction in which Alice will > make her measurement. What if she changes her mind? > > > Right. I would like Bruce to consider the case Alice measures alternately x and z spin axes of an electron 1000 times and interprets those measurement results as binary digits following a decimal point to define the real number to which she will set her measurement angle to (before she measures her entangled particle). Certainly in the no-collapse case there would be at least 2^1000 Alices who perform the measurement at each of the possible measurement angles that can be defined by 1000 binary digits. What I wonder is how many Alices Bruce would believe to exist in this scenario before she measures her entangled particle. Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
