> On 16 Aug 2018, at 20:48, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
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> 
> 
> On 8/16/2018 3:16 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>>> On 15 Aug 2018, at 21:29, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8/15/2018 2:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>>>>> On 14 Aug 2018, at 20:09, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/14/2018 2:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>>>>>>  kicking back of the fact that we have to take account the wave 
>>>>>> structure integrally.
>>>>> If you read words metaphorically then you can make them mean anything.
>>>> The whole point is that the quantum wave is not a metaphor. That is what 
>>>> the two slit experience, done with one particle at a time, illustrates.
>>>> Moving to instrumentalism is an option in applied physics. It is non 
>>>> sensical in metaphysics.
>>> On the contrary, it is a metaphysic.
>> 
>> As a metaphysics it is self-defeating as it leads to solipsism. Metaphysical 
>> instrumentalism denies any non-observable reality, not even the dark side of 
>> the moon.
> 
> No.  That's strawmanning.  "Observable" allows for indirect observation.  
> Observation is not the same as seeing.

Indirect observation needs extrapolation. You just interpret this in Aristotle 
metaphysics which attribute a *fundamental* reality on what we see and that we 
infer from that. But that is contradicted by the facts and the mechanist theory 
of mind. You are invoking your God without saying, ITSME.

Bruno



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