On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 12:45 AM Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote:
>One could look at it that way. In terms of biological evolution, what has > turned out to be intelligent beings (us!) are also conscious beings. Yes but ask yourself why would Evolution do that. Natural Selection can see intelligence but it can't see consciousness any better than we can see it in others, and yet it produced at least one conscious being (me) and probably more. Why? The only conclusion I can come up with is that consciousness is an unavoidable byproduct of intelligence. Evolution selected for intelligence and consciousness just road in free on intelligence's coattails. > > it got a little confusing. Is IBM Watson [ > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watson_(computer) ] "intelligent"? > What's confusing about that? If a man did what Watson did you wouldn't hesitate to say that what the man did was smart, so to insist that if a machine does the exact same thing it is not smart would make no more sense than saying if a white man does something it shows intelligence but if a black man does the same thing it does not. > >There are some AI scientists (or SI - Synthetic Intelligence, to > contrast with AI [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_intelligence ] > who say to make truly intelligent artifacts they must be conscious. > I believe that too because you can't have intelligent behavior without consciousness (although the reverse may not always be true). And that's why I also believe the Turing Test must work not just for intelligence but for consciousness too because like Evolution by Natural Selection the Turing Test deals exclusively with observable behavior. It may not be a perfect test but its all we have and all we'll ever have so it will have to do. > How do you make a conscious robot? > Easy, just make it intelligent. After that I would have no more reason to doubt its conscious than I have to doubt my fellow human beings are conscious. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
