You again use your upside down logic in which you start from the existence of computers and conclude your own existence, when in fact you should start from your own existence and conclude the inexistence of computers. Since you exist, you have the properties that existence itself has, namely the bringing of new qualia into existence out of nothing. So when you are presenting with an image such as the duck-rabbit image (which in the end is just a particular case of how the entire consciousness works), you can bring into existence qualia at your own will and see either a duck or a rabbit, or for that matter anything, you can even see an alien there or Santa Claus or whatever you want. Computers on the other hand, not-existing (or being deterministic systems, since is the same thing), cannot bring anything new in existence, so they cannot see anything when you present them with such an image. Of course, you can put in their database the word "rabbit", and then they will say "rabbit". But if you don't put them anything, they cannot bring on their own any answer, the way we are doing. And I repeat: we do this not because we have "wet brain" as you say, but because we are consciousnesses and that's what consciousnesses do.
On Monday, 29 April 2019 20:06:41 UTC+3, John Clark wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 12:20 PM 'Cosmin Visan' t < > [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > > *> Oh, so now when you are faced with a real problem, you start to change >> the subject ?* >> > > I humbly submit you're the one changing the subject and pretending I never > wrote a long post that you refuse to respond to. And I've already answered > your question, I learned from you that computers don't exist so obviously > it sees nothing, and I have just as much trouble interpreting that image as > the nonexistent computer does so I don't exist either. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
