On 4/29/2019 5:27 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 26 Apr 2019, at 15:33, [email protected]
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/John Basl is assistant professor of philosophy at Northeastern
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https://aeon.co/ideas/ais-should-have-the-same-ethical-protections-as-animals
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A puzzle and difficulty arises here because the scientific study of
consciousness has not reached a consensus about what consciousness
is, and how we can tell whether or not it is present. On some views ???
???liberal??? views ??? for consciousness to exist requires nothing but a
certain type of well-organised information-processing, such as a
flexible informational model of the system in relation to objects in
its environment, with guided attentional capacities and long-term
action-planning. We might be on the verge of creating such systems
already. On other views ??? ???conservative??? views ??? consciousness might
require very specific biological features, such as a brain very much
like a mammal brain in its low-level structural details: in which
case we are nowhere near creating artificial consciousness.
It is unclear which type of view is correct or whether some other
explanation will in the end prevail. However, if a liberal view is
correct, we might soon be creating many subhuman AIs who will deserve
ethical protection. There lies the moral risk.
Discussions of ???AI risk??? normally focus on the risks that new AI
technologies might pose to us humans, such as taking over the world
and destroying us, or at least gumming up our banking system. Much
less discussed is the ethical risk we pose to the AIs, through our
possible mistreatment of them.
The humans are still the main threat for the human. The idea to give
human right to AI does not make music sense. It is part of the work of
the AI to learn to defend themselves. We can be open mind, and listen,
but defending their right can only threat the human right, I would
say. In the theology of the machine, it can be proved that hell is
paved with the good intentions ??? (amazingly enough, and accepting some
definitions, of course).
A right is some action that society agrees both to not interfere with
and to protect against interference.Humans give to other humans the
rights they want for themselves, so it is a reciprocal agreement.The
problem with extending this to AI is that AI are easily distinguished
and so there must be some commonality to be the basis for
reciprocity.It's like the problem of racism.?? It was easy to deprived
blacks of rights so long as they were seen a distinct. So what do we
have in common with AI's?Intelligence.Do we have any values, like
empathy, love of children, need for companionship...in common?I think it
depends on the AI.
Brent
My 'conservative' view: information processing (alone) does not
achieve experience (consciousness) processing.
Mechanism makes you right on this, although it can depend how
information processing is defined. Consciousness is not in the
processing, but in truth, or in the semantic related to that
processing,. The processing itself by is only a relative concept,
where consciousness is an absolute thing.
Bruno
https://codicalist.wordpress.com/2018/10/14/experience-processing/
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