> On 1 May 2019, at 18:44, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On 5/1/2019 2:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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>>> On 29 Apr 2019, at 15:50, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List 
>>> <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>> Semantics means meaning, and meaning is something that exists in 
>>> consciousness.
>> 
>> No problem with this.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> You cannot use that for any "programming”.
>> 
>> 
>> But computer science is in a large part the study between the relation 
>> between program and their semantics. The machine which relate the two is the 
>> universal machine. If my computer was unable to associate some semantic to a 
>> program, this mail would never been sent to you.
> 
> Which illustrates that meaning is a relation to environments and actions.

Practically yes, but “of course”, theoretically, when assuming mechanism, there 
is no “ontologically material” environment, just long and complex 
histories/computations. The plausible stable environment is given by the 
statistics on the infinitely many computations (realised in arithmetic) going 
through our states.

Bruno



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