> On 11 May 2019, at 08:13, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > https://aeon.co/ideas/how-the-dualism-of-descartes-ruined-our-mental-health > ... > Nature was thereby drained of her inner life, rendered a deaf and blind > apparatus of indifferent and value-free law, and humankind was faced with a > world of inanimate, meaningless matter, upon which it projected its psyche – > its aliveness, meaning and purpose – only in fantasy. > ... > The bifurcation of mind and nature was at the root of immeasurable secular > progress – medical and technological advance, the rise of individual rights > and social justice, to name just a few. It also protected us all from being > bound up in the inherent uncertainty and flux of nature. It gave us a certain > omnipotence – just as it gave science empirical control over nature – and > most of us readily accept, and willingly spend, the inheritance bequeathed by > it, and rightly so. > > In the face of an indifferent and unresponsive world that neglects to render > our experience meaningful outside of our own minds – for > nature-as-mechanism is powerless to do this –
Yes, nature does not even exist as mechanism, so the notion of “nature-as-mechanism” is globally non sensical, yet locally, it works for person supported by highly probable computations, but nature becomes a projection, like in a dream. > our minds have been left fixated on empty representations of a world that > was once its source and being. That is due to the reductionist conception of machine and number. Today, we can defeat it, mathematically. > All we have, if we are lucky to have them, are therapists and parents who try > to take on what is, in reality, and given the magnitude of the loss, an > impossible task. The loss is due to the separation of theology from science, and the impeaching of the fundamental questioning for a long period. That has led to the separation of human sciences and exact science, making them both into pseudo-metaphysics and pseudo-religion. Then we see only the “superficial” technologies, without understanding of what they implies. To separate science and theologies is a con artist trick to steal your money, and in passing, your soul. When “equated” with the machine, the negative pessimist will say, “oh damned I am only a machine”, but the positive optimistic will say, “nice, so machine can be as nice as I am”. The interesting thing is only that this can be tested. Mechanism has observable consequences. Bruno > ... > > "How did we ever get the notion of the mind as something distinct from the > body? Why did this bad idea enter our culture?” > -- Richard Rorty > https://news.stanford.edu/news/2005/april13/rorty-041305.html > > > @philipthrift > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/66ebf031-d9ed-4855-9151-7c5a214b0bd4%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/66ebf031-d9ed-4855-9151-7c5a214b0bd4%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/AE4C61A8-F191-4C24-85E8-815F6B138EFA%40ulb.ac.be.

