> On 27 May 2019, at 22:27, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Are you aware of Roger Penrose writings about non-computable phenomena ?
Yes. But non computable phenomena is exactly what all machines are confronted with, and indeed, Mechanism enforced both consciousness and matter to be not computable. To add special sort of non computability, like a wave-reduction in quantum mechanics, is like adding magic marmelade to dismiss a theory which already explains why non-computability is made obligatory with the Mechanist hypothesis. Then Penrose first argument is just non valid. He corrected it in his second best seller, but he did not take into account his own correction in the philosophical consequences. But Penrose general idea, like the “theory” defended by Philip Thrift, is consistent with mechanism: if matter exists ontologically, then indeed we cannot be supported by Digital Machine. Bruno > > On Monday, 27 May 2019 13:02:24 UTC+3, Bruno Marchal wrote: > computation > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/6ae3fbf5-0296-4a75-9938-72d0925c307d%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/6ae3fbf5-0296-4a75-9938-72d0925c307d%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/D0646A0B-4340-424A-8B6D-2A03128A7DEF%40ulb.ac.be.
