On Monday, June 3, 2019 at 8:13:44 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 4:18 PM howardmarks <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > > > I think the labels "fascist" or "liberal" of A. and B. are distortions. >> > > I too am very confused about this entire left-wing right-wing business, > just a few years ago right wingers thought the CIA and FBI were the good > guys and the Kremlin the bad guys but Trump suporters thing the oposite, > the republican right wing were free traders but Trump is a self described > "tariff man", the right wing was for smaller less intrusive government but > Trump wants the government to tell women what they can and can't do with > their bodies. > > I don't use the word "fascist" lightly, I'm not in the habit, as some on > the left are, of calling anyone who's politics I disagree with a fascist, > but when it comes to Trump supporters I sincerely think the word is > justified; 53% of republicans say they would be OK with Trump canceling the > 2020 election. And Fascist dictators cancel elections, lead chants to > imprison their political opponents, try to change the law so they can sue > newspapers and close them down when they write articles against them, jail > reporters who don't cooperate, order TV networks to stop satirizing them, > put family members in positions of power, tell police not to be gentle > when they arrest somebody, say some Nazis are "very good people" and > develop a cult following that will believe anything they say, such as > vaccines cause autism or windmills cause cancer. > > Today it's foolish to claim there is a moral equivalence between the two > major political parties, at one time there was one (and I was a Republican > for most of my life) but there is no equivalence anymore. The Democrats > have done stuff that is very unwise and unfair but it would be going way > too far to call them fascist. A fascist political party is as bad as things > can get, the sort of thing you saw in Europe in the 1930s, and things are > not currently as bad as things can get but only because the American > Fascist Party (aka Republicans) still has some competition from a very > large but sometimes silly and often dysfunctional non-fascist party, the > democrats. > > John K Clark > >
The Republican Party and Democratic Party became pretty much identified with their current alignment in 1932 with the election of FDR. The Democratic Party has since been* the only origin *of what might be called progressive legislation: Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, ... It is true that some Republicans crossed over to help in some cases, and the segregationist southern Democrats then changed their party affiliation to Republican. Progressive law like EPA and women's rights in academia sports were passed under Nixon, but the Democrats were in charge of Congress. *So we know that progressive laws have been passed when Democrats were in charge of both president and Congress, or just in charge of Congress, but ...* *Name a single progressive law passed when there was a Republican president and Republican House and Senate since 1932.* @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/8e929ca4-9f65-4b6e-8736-7f8c0f74ce7a%40googlegroups.com.
