On Saturday, June 15, 2019 at 9:33:26 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 9:45 AM Lawrence Crowell <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
> *> to remain within the quantum paradigm means the no-signalling theorem 
>> holds. The Kochen-Specker theorem corollary means there is not information 
>> transfer involved, which means there is no interaction.*
>
>
> But no signaling (no information transfer) does not necessarily mean the 
> same thing as no interaction. If you and I are 10 light years apart and 
> have quantum entangled coins and flip them at the same time we will both 
> produce a sequence of heads and tails that look completely random to both 
> of us. You then get into your spaceship that moves a 99% the speed of light 
> and visit me. After 10 years you arrive and  when we compare notes we 
> discover that we both produced the exact same (apparently) random sequence. 
> No information was transfered faster than light so you can't use it for 
> communication but an interaction of some sort faster than light must have 
> occurred because we both got the same random sequence at the same time even 
> though we were 10 light years apart; although we couldn't prove the 
> sequences were the same until we communicated and that can only be done at 
> the speed of light or less.  
>
>  John K Clark
>

The interaction which occurred was local in the lab frames of the 
observers. The interaction did not span 10 light years distance.

LC

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