On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 9:58:37 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote:
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> On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 9:45:21 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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>> On 15 Jun 2019, at 19:37, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> On Saturday, June 15, 2019 at 12:10:48 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
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>>> On 6/15/2019 12:29 AM, Philip Thrift wrote:
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>>> I've basically lived my life believing what I want, I think.
>>> I'm not trying to *convince* anyone of anything. 
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>>> One thing I might try to convince people of:
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>>>     *Physics is fiction.*
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>>> Vic Stenger would have said "Physics is models".
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>>> There are always alternative models, and new ones likely coming in the 
>>> future.
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>>> To find *reality in a model* (to make truth claims in the vocabulary of 
>>> a model) is a form of religious fundamentalism.
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>>> You say you're not trying to convince anyone of anything, but you 
>>> repeatedly slap pejorative labels on other viewpoints.  You use them like 
>>> Trump uses nick names.  I avoids actually making an argument against them 
>>> while disparaging them.  
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>>> So in this specific instance: Where do you look for reality?  Or do you 
>>> suppose there is no reality.  If you trained a neural network so that it 
>>> could produce all the predictions about physics problems that the community 
>>> of physicists do, would it be just as good as the theories it replaces?
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>>> Brent
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>> I don't criticize other theories. Any theory anyone want's top pursue is 
>> is fine.
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>> It's just the Physics Gestapo I criticize.
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>> It is not physics Gestaop. Only physicalist gestapo, or the usual 
>> confusion (Aristotle basic philosophy) between physics and metaphysics, 
>> which is incompatible with Mechanism.
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>> Bruno 
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> The Physics Gestapo apparently  treats lightly those who say matter comes 
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> @philipthrift 
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I can't remember the moniker on this, but there is a signature of an email 
discussion gone bad when people start invoking Nazis. There is no Gestapo 
here. The problem is frankly you are most likely wrong; these sorts of 
deformations of QM have a consistent history of not working. Just because 
people such as Price keep banging their heads on this does not mean it is 
alive --- more like beating a dead horse. Please stop using Nazi references.

LC 

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