On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 9:45:21 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 15 Jun 2019, at 19:37, Philip Thrift <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
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> On Saturday, June 15, 2019 at 12:10:48 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
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>> On 6/15/2019 12:29 AM, Philip Thrift wrote:
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>> I've basically lived my life believing what I want, I think.
>> I'm not trying to *convince* anyone of anything. 
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>> One thing I might try to convince people of:
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>>     *Physics is fiction.*
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>> Vic Stenger would have said "Physics is models".
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>> There are always alternative models, and new ones likely coming in the 
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>> To find *reality in a model* (to make truth claims in the vocabulary of 
>> a model) is a form of religious fundamentalism.
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>> You say you're not trying to convince anyone of anything, but you 
>> repeatedly slap pejorative labels on other viewpoints.  You use them like 
>> Trump uses nick names.  I avoids actually making an argument against them 
>> while disparaging them.  
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>> So in this specific instance: Where do you look for reality?  Or do you 
>> suppose there is no reality.  If you trained a neural network so that it 
>> could produce all the predictions about physics problems that the community 
>> of physicists do, would it be just as good as the theories it replaces?
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>> Brent
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> I don't criticize other theories. Any theory anyone want's top pursue is 
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> It's just the Physics Gestapo I criticize.
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> It is not physics Gestaop. Only physicalist gestapo, or the usual 
> confusion (Aristotle basic philosophy) between physics and metaphysics, 
> which is incompatible with Mechanism.
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> Bruno 
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The Physics Gestapo apparently  treats lightly those who say matter comes 
out of arithmetic. :)

@philipthrift 

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