> On 19 Jul 2019, at 20:14, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Friday, July 19, 2019 at 11:11:28 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 6:18 AM Philip Thrift <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
> 
> > I've been perplexed for 50 years how the idea of immaterialism (that there 
> > is something other than matter) came to be.
> 
> If matter (nouns) exist then something other than matter must exist too, 
> namely the relationship between matter (adjectives). I think both John Clark 
> and Philip Thrift are adjectives not nouns despite what our grade school 
> teachers told us.
> 
> John K Clark
> 
> 
> "Relationism" (reality is relations. or relations are real in their own 
> right) is another immaterialism. Relations (adjectives) are merely 
> mathematically contrived fictions.
> 
> Anyone who says relations are existing immaterial entities couldn't possible 
> criticize Bruno Marchal's theory.

Excellent point :)

And I believe in love and hate, and I believe those are not made of fermions 
and bosons, despite they can incarnate love and hate situations, but number 
relations can too (necessarily of we assume digital mechanism).

Bruno


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