> On 26 Aug 2019, at 03:03, Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Sunday, August 25, 2019, Bruce Kellett <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 11:03 PM Bruno Marchal <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > On 25 Aug 2019, at 14:01, Bruce Kellett <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 9:39 PM Bruno Marchal <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> On 25 Aug 2019, at 10:10, Bruce Kellett <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> The mathematical structure might describe these things, but descriptions >>> are not the things they describe. >> >> I think you confuse the mathematical structure, and the theory describing >> that mathematical structure. Those are very different things. >> >> I think that is exactly the mistake that you make all the time. > > Where? I don’t remind you ever show this. > > I have said it many times. A mathematical structure is an abstract human > construct. Such a structure might go some way towards describing physical > reality, but the map is not the territory. > > > Bruno is talking about the territory and I think you are confusing it with > Bruno talking about the map.
Exactly. > To be clear, axioms in math are just theories to explain the mathematical > reality, OK. Or a mathematical reality, like we can use the theory of groups to study one special group among many others. The Master group is an incredible example of *a* mathematical reality, for example. It was not obvious that there is a biggest finite sporadic simple group. It does not strike the eyes that is has 808,017,424,794,512,875,886,459,904,961,710,757,005,754,368,000,000,000 elements! Bruno > in the same sense as physical theories do. Since you presume there is no > mathematical reality all you can imagine are maps. > > Jason > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CA%2BBCJUhVNW-myLumphgZdZbgQnKkhS_pJ%2BudCcZxEvQa98G9Tg%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CA%2BBCJUhVNW-myLumphgZdZbgQnKkhS_pJ%2BudCcZxEvQa98G9Tg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/A1D67194-4BCA-46D8-9879-2BE243C31803%40ulb.ac.be.
