> On 26 Aug 2019, at 10:28, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The Mary-Go-Round > Galen Strawson > https://www.academia.edu/31517753/Strawson_The_Mary_Go_Round > > "The mistake [in the debate about Mary in the Black and White Room] to think > that physics can give an exhaustive characterization of the nature of the > physical*." > > that is, material, but Stawson I guess wants to be one of the cool kids
I am quite amazed he cites Al Ghazali! I think Al Gazhali is partially responsible for the current widespread obscurantism in Islam. He “won” his debate against Averroès, in 1248 (or 1148). Al Ghazli defended the idea that Reason must be submitted to the Text, where Averroès defended the idea that the Text must be submitted to Reason. That has transformed the Golden Age of Islam into fight in between different radical versions of some literal reading of the Quran and some haddiths. The christian did the same error around 529. That transforms theology into “the opium of people”. It makes religion into authoritative arguments, and violence. Strawson argument is not valid, it identifies []p with []p & p, or []p & <>t with []p & <>t & p. Like Lucas and Penrose, in a different context. But I will not develop this right now. This asks to understand well how incompleteness imposes those nuances to the subject. Mary needs the “p” which is not a formalisable notion. Neither in arithmetic, nor in any complete 3p account of the physical reality. Bruno > > @philipthrift > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/8b5ab1a9-7c1c-41ce-b8ef-443f25766dda%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/8b5ab1a9-7c1c-41ce-b8ef-443f25766dda%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/5D56053F-36A7-46FE-9E48-036D025E78C8%40ulb.ac.be.
