On 9/4/2019 12:43 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

On 3 Sep 2019, at 02:44, spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Well, I tend not to disagree with you concerning Islam (The Uma) doing nothing about the Islamists, so that Kuffar lives (infidels) don't really matter under Sharia Law; and no we shouldn't opt to live under their Dhimmi Laws, in which we and our grandkids resign ourselves to permanent 2nd or 3rd class status (If Pakistan is any example?). The Ahmadis within Islam don't hold these values toward kuffar, and are hated by Sunni & Shia for their 'disloyalty.'  I can see religions evolving because of this Singularity evolves, or errupts, as you have indicated below. My idea of a Singularity is way different from most people familiar with the term. I think that when AI gets harnessed more & more to the task of improving on, and creating wholly new inventions, this will change human life forever. (For the better). Minsky's brain in a box is nice, and good for stories and movies, but that is a secondary or tertiary thing.

The singularity belongs to the past, and is the discovery of the universal machine or number, by Emil Post, Alan Turing, Alonzo Church, Stephen Kleene, …

That machine is maximally intelligent and conscious (although in a highly dissociated mode).

We can only make it more stupid. The “new” singularity is when the machine will be as stupid as the humans.

"The human brain is limited after all, and mathematics and theoretical science can't wait around for increasingly long periods of time for the increasingly rare clairvoyant types required to understand things.  On that glorious day we get answers from vast computing machines which are designed by other machines, running algorithms metaparsed by other algorithms which we don't understand, producing proofs we can't possibly fathom, we will have curiously returned to a state of affairs seen in the ancient world where answers came from oracles.  The sad bit is that the oracles, such as at Delphi, were divine spirits channeled through beautiful young women.  In our future world our oracles will require that we will stare at screens --- and call it progress."
    --- Lawrence B. Crowell



The more neurons you have, the greatest is the range of the potential stupidity, which accompanies intelligence, and the competence which intelligence can make growing.

Intelligence and consciousness are simple. Competence is multiple, have many incomparable degrees, is domain dependent, and it has a negative feedback on Intelligence.

So it's actually /*because */Trump is a stable genius that he is so incompetent!

Brent

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