> On 4 Sep 2019, at 22:59, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/4/2019 12:43 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>> 
>>> On 3 Sep 2019, at 02:44, spudboy100 via Everything List 
>>> <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, I tend not to disagree with you concerning Islam (The Uma) doing 
>>> nothing about the Islamists, so that Kuffar lives (infidels) don't really 
>>> matter under Sharia Law; and no we shouldn't opt to live under their Dhimmi 
>>> Laws, in which we and our grandkids resign ourselves to permanent 2nd or 
>>> 3rd class status (If Pakistan is any example?). The Ahmadis within Islam 
>>> don't hold these values toward kuffar, and are hated by Sunni & Shia for 
>>> their 'disloyalty.'  I can see religions evolving because of this 
>>> Singularity evolves, or errupts, as you have indicated below. My idea of a 
>>> Singularity is way different from most people familiar with the term. I 
>>> think that when AI gets harnessed more & more to the task of improving on, 
>>> and creating wholly new inventions, this will change human life forever. 
>>> (For the better). Minsky's brain in a box is nice, and good for stories and 
>>> movies, but that is a secondary or tertiary thing. 
>> 
>> The singularity belongs to the past, and is the discovery of the universal 
>> machine or number, by Emil Post, Alan Turing, Alonzo Church, Stephen Kleene, 
>> …
>> 
>> That machine is maximally intelligent and conscious (although in a highly 
>> dissociated mode).
>> 
>> We can only make it more stupid. The “new” singularity is when the machine 
>> will be as stupid as the humans.
> 
> "The human brain is limited after all, and mathematics and theoretical 
> science can't wait around for increasingly long periods of time for the 
> increasingly rare clairvoyant types required to understand things.  On that 
> glorious day we get answers from vast computing machines which are designed 
> by other machines, running algorithms metaparsed by other algorithms which we 
> don't understand, producing proofs we can't possibly fathom, we will have 
> curiously returned to a state of affairs seen in the ancient world where 
> answers came from oracles.  The sad bit is that the oracles, such as at 
> Delphi, were divine spirits channeled through beautiful young women.  In our 
> future world our oracles will require that we will stare at screens --- and 
> call it progress." 
>     --- Lawrence B. Crowell
> 
> 
>> 
>> The more neurons you have, the greatest is the range of the potential 
>> stupidity, which accompanies intelligence, and the competence which 
>> intelligence can make growing.
>> 
>> Intelligence and consciousness are simple. Competence is multiple, have many 
>> incomparable degrees, is domain dependent, and it has a negative feedback on 
>> Intelligence.
> 
> So it's actually because Trump is a stable genius that he is so incompetent!

Exercise: explain why Trump is definitely NOT Löbian …

Bruno



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