> On 4 Sep 2019, at 23:03, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On 9/4/2019 1:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>> After 1500 years of brainwashing. For a long time, everyone else was 
>> believing that drugs exist, and surely they do if we mean the original sense 
>> (medication of chemical product, usually sold in drugstore).
>> 
>> Why do atheists trie, with the radical pseudo-religious people, to brush 
>> away one millenium of theological reflection, which brought physics, 
>> mathematics and even mathematical logic?
> 
> Why do you think you should be able to dictate what people mean by a common 
> word they use to communicate their thoughts.  When my neighbor says, "I'm a 
> very religious person." do you think she means "I reflect on what is true in 
> the unviverse.” 


Usually, people saying that they are religious, do NOT mean that they are 
attracted by fantasy and fiction. All religious people believe they side on the 
truth. That they are wrong is another debate.



> or "I go to church on Sunday and pray to a powerful supernatural father 
> figure.”

In Europa, that is a tradition. Most educated Christians do not believe in the 
literal reading of the bible.

But, christians have become materialist, and that is incompatible with 
Mechanism. 

Why defend the radicals? Why put a millenium of theology done with the 
scientific attitude under the rug, and participate with them to criticise a 
coming back to reason?

Primary matter is a powerful supernatural being already, from a mechanist 
viewpoint.

But doing metaphysics/theology seriously, we have to be able to doubt all 
ontologies, and try to start from the simpler one, and invoke super-nature only 
if we need to do so, in last resort, better never …

Bruno




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