Note Forrest's concept of fine-tuning includes being within a factor of three, and and having a value small compared to 1 with nothing to compare it too.  That's why Vic's book would be a good corrective.

Brent

On 9/3/2019 2:55 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:

Dissolving 'fine-tuning' by hypothesizing a multiverse of infinite 'tunes' is not appealing. For one thing, we cannot make any observations of other universes.

So let's say we have this *one universe*. That's it, and that's all that ever will be.

Then 'fine-tuning' is still a mystery, but matter is a mystery already. Why should 'fine-tuning' be any special problem?

@philipthrift


On Tuesday, September 3, 2019 at 12:41:20 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:



    On 9/3/2019 1:55 AM, Philip Thrift wrote:

    Nice find, but Michael Forrest's paper should have related
    something more naturally plausible:

    *cosmopsychism*
       -
    
https://aeon.co/essays/cosmopsychism-explains-why-the-universe-is-fine-tuned-for-life
    
<https://aeon.co/essays/cosmopsychism-explains-why-the-universe-is-fine-tuned-for-life>

    We should send a copy of Vic's "The Fallacy of Fine-Tuning" to
    Forrest.

    Brent


    At least we know *consciousness* exists in at least one place
    (inside our skulls, though there are deniers)
        -
    https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/03/13/the-consciousness-deniers/
    <https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/03/13/the-consciousness-deniers/>

    but no evidence of *God* has ever been observed.

    @philipthrift

    On Monday, September 2, 2019 at 7:28:04 PM UTC-5,
    [email protected] wrote:

        And so we have!

        
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/294721340_God_is_a_Vacuum_Fluctuation
        
<https://www.researchgate.net/publication/294721340_God_is_a_Vacuum_Fluctuation>

        Nyuck Nyuck Nyuck!

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Philip Thrift <[email protected]>
        To: Everything List <[email protected]>
        Sent: Mon, Sep 2, 2019 2:54 am
        Subject: Re: Quantum Foam



        On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 8:34:06 PM UTC-5, Lawrence
        Crowell wrote:



            This has gotten a bit off track from quantum fluctuations.

            LC



        The originating Topic 'quantum foam' became 'religious myth'.


        @philipthrift



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