On Mon, Sep 16, 2019, at 09:32, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List wrote: > Any consciousness that invents that idea in itself.
Ok, but we clearly have some common ground. I can send you this message and you can read it. Here's my simplistic / informal understanding of what is going on... Like you, I tend to believe that consciousness is more fundamental than physics, and I also agree that "human physics" is just an idea in consciousness. I think that we might diverge in that I also believe that science points to something real, as in, real phenomena with discernible patterns that you and me can agree with. My understanding is that you, me, everyone else are "windows" through which reality can be experienced. As far as I am concerned, first person experience is REALLY REAL(tm) and independent third person reality is a useful model with an unknown (perhaps unknowable) ontological status. My point: why wouldn't an algorithm become such a "window" from which reality can be experienced? What's special about wet brains? This seems particularly obvious to me given that I have never even met you in person. You could be an algorithm running in silicon, as far as I am concerned. Telmo. > > On Sunday, 15 September 2019 23:28:11 UTC+3, [email protected] wrote: >> You mean human consciousness or something bigger? >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List <[email protected]> >> To: Everything List <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sun, Sep 15, 2019 7:39 am >> Subject: Re: Why Consciousness Cannot Be Algorithmic >> >> >> The reason is much simpler: "Physics" is just an idea in consciousness. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/83cd060e-aad2-4f17-ad6a-be72abb4aa08%40googlegroups.com. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/0dc1035f-25f8-4d60-a5c1-53bf4ff04381%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/0dc1035f-25f8-4d60-a5c1-53bf4ff04381%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/3f4f7c65-f2e6-432d-a209-4dc5b46133d4%40www.fastmail.com.
